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Brawl Legal Vintage Legal Timeless Legal Commander Legal Pauper Not Legal Oathbreaker Legal Penny Legal Toolbox Buy This Card Notes and Rules Information for Vren, the Relentless: While Vren is on the battlefield, creatures your opponents control are exiled instead of dying, and abilities that trigger when a creature dies won't trigger

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You can still collect this payoff incrementally by adding extra value to your flicker effects, or you can aim for a combo strategy that goes infinite and ends the game with your victory when executed correctly

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Counterspells are a little too situational, and it is often just going ot be better to add to your board with three mana than count on your opponent playing something that you will counter